From: “Joan Hansen” hansjoan@alaska.net>
To: news@peninsulaclarion.com>
Subject: Kenai Neighbors Column for April 24, 2007
Date: Thursday, April 19, 2007 1:57 AM

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“When I am an old woman I shall wear purple with a red hat which doesn’t go, and doesn’t suit me..and pick flowers in other people’s gardens, and learn to spit.”

I first read this poem well over 20 years ago and loved it. Written by Jenny Joseph, it encourages us to have more fun in life. In the past few years, a movement has risen up that encourages women to “have fun and friendship after 50″, and it has been named “The Red Hat Society”.

I spoke to the founder and ‘Queen Mom” of our local society last week and got her story.

Marlene Duffy first came to Alaska from California in 1971. She and her husband, John, lived in Anchorage until 1986, when they moved to Barrow. She served as secretary to the administrator of the Indian Health Services Hospital and later worked for the chief of Police, while John was director of housing for the North Slope Borough. They lived there until 1991, retired, and chose to build a house in Kenai and call it ‘home’.

The couple had five children: Mark Boberick lives in Fairbanks, Betsy Peterson in Kenai, Brian Boberick in Littleton, Colorado, and twin girls Debbie Mann who lives in Camarillo, California and Dee Webster, who lives in Brooklyn, New York. There are 26 grandchildren in all, and “four and a half great-grandchildren”, says Marlene. Her husband passed away in 1997.

About four years ago, Marlene was shopping in Arizona and saw the colors red and purple at a booth, liked the combination, and bought the items. He friend said, “Now you can join the Red Hat Society! Marlene looked on the Internet, and found that the closest chapter was in Homer, so she simply organized her own.

Now called the “Kenai Reds, Some Pinks, and We’re Not Salmon”, the local chapter has about 140 members in the area, while the society has grown to nearly a million members world-wide. The sisterhood helps women by giving them someone to attend events with, and often camaraderie is formed. The local group tries to support at least one local event a month. Marlene says, “the beauty of this organization is that it’s ‘totally disorganized’. No meetings, no dues, no minutes, no rules or regulations. You just need to wear a red hat and a purple outfit. If you’re under 50, you can still join, but have to wear pint hats and lavender outfits until you come of age. Just be ready to have fun.”

April 25 marks the birthday of the Red Hat Society and the gals are celebrating with a parade for the third year. It begins at the Kenai Senior Center and will travel to the Kenai Visitor’s Center at 3 p.m. You’re invited to come watch. If you are interested in being part of this jolly group, call Patsy Clifford at 776-5382 or check with Marlene at 283-5319 a little later, after she ducks outside for a little visit before she has her bypass surgery in May.

Happy Birthday today to Molly Musgrove.

      Vanessa Meade is a woman of many talents. We met in 2003 at the Kachemak Bay Writers Conference in Homer when Tobias Wolfe was the keynote speaker. She plans to go to Homer this June in order to hear Amy Tan speak as well.
      When she was younger, she joined the army “straight out of high school. From 1988-1996 I was on active duty in Desert Storm, then National Guard in Illinois,” she told me.
      Her career took another turn as she left the Guard in 1996 and received her Masters in social work in 1999. She attended Aurora University outside Chicago Illinois. She worked in mental health in Kenai and in Homer for about five years. “I still have my license, but I always wondered what would have happened if I had gone into law enforcement instead,” she told me.
      We laughed at the coincidence of the name of her school. “Yeah, Aurora – Northern Lights – weird, huh?” she laughed.
      Vanessa had a childhood fascination with Alaska. “There was this guy from my hometown in Iowa. His sister lived behind my aunt. His name was Dick Proenneke and he helped Lake Clark become a national park. He used to come back home and set up a white screen in my aunt’s and uncle’s living room and show me and my three brothers movies (about Alaska). It made Iowa look pretty darned tame,” she said.
      “He died about 4 years ago. His cabin is a national historic site,” she said. Proenneke filmed himself building his cabin. A book about his adventures in Alaska called One Man’s Wilderness: an Alaskan Odyssey was written by Sam Keith.
      These days you will find Vanessa Meade in the uniform of the Alaska State Troopers. She gets to do a lot of outreach. In fact, we recently ran into each other at the Job Fair as she was handing out information on the Troopers. She is the D.A.R.E. (Drug Abuse Resistance Education) officer at Sterling Elementary working with sixth graders.
      “There are lots of similarities (between law enforcement and social work) – working with people. It’s very much the same. A lot of being a trooper is mediating things – negotiating. Social work skills came in handy – interviewing whenever something is going on and you are talking with people – therapist background comes in handy,” she explained.
      Vanessa appreciates the adventure opportunities here – she loves to fish and kayak. She has recently returned from a month long trip to New Zealand where she took a tour and went camping, canyoning, caving. “I’m definitely going to make it back there. This was my first trip,” she said.
      She shares her home with Jesse, an eight year old black lab border collie mix.
AROUND TOWN:
      Calling all Soldotna bloggers: My Space, Your Space, Next Door Space. I know you’re out there – I’ve seen your names. Drop me a note and let others get to know you, too. I’m also looking for kids from elementary and middle school to interview. Parents?

I met Megan Parham 4 years ago when we moved back to Alaska.  In those four years she has changed from a bubbly little girl to a vivacious young woman.  We had a nice chat last week about what is going on in her life.

Megan is in the 8^th grade and is looking forward to her freshman year at Skyview this fall.  She wants to try out for volleyball and basketball ands wants to take classes in Russian.“We learned a little bit of Russian when I was in Mr. Miller’s class in the 6^th grade and I’ve always wanted to learn the language,” she said.  “I think it would be a really useful language to know living in Alaska.”

When Megan started listing all of the activities she is planning for this summer, it made me glad she is on the track team.  I think she will have to do a lot of running to get them all done!

One of the first things on the summer agenda is the American Cancer Societies Relay for Life.  This is the 3^rd year that Megan has been on the Sensation Sterling SuperStars Relay team.   

“This year our family is walking for John Dunn, Dr Bobby Stewart and my Uncle Tommy.  I love the Relay.  There’s live music all night long and the luminary ceremony is really beautiful.  I’m hoping we can raise a lot of money this year,” she said. 

On a side note, if you want learn more about the Relay, you can visit the web site at:  www.acsevents.org/relay/ak/centralpeninsula

Megan is raising a pig for the 4-H Junior Market Livestock auction at the fair this summer.  This is the second year she and her brother Derrick are both raising swine.  Megan also has appaloosa quarter-horse named Junebug. 

“Right now she is a giant ball of energy.  She loves to run and is really frisky this spring,” she said.  “I want to learn how to ride barrels this summer.”

Along with the two pigs and a horse, the family has 4 outside dogs and 3 inside dogs.

“Oh, and we have a boring parakeet.  It just sits there.  It doesn’t even fly around,” she said with a laugh.

Megan loves that their family lives in Sterling.

“I don’t think I would like to live in town.  Out here we aren’t surrounded by people and noise.  We can have our animals and I can ride Junebug.  We can have our 4-wheelers and go riding.  I don’t think I could do all those things in town.”

Megan doesn’t want to see very many changes is Sterling, certainly nothing that would make it get too big, but she would like to see one addition: a pool. 

“In the summer we have lots of outdoor things to do, but in the winter it would be really nice to have a pool, and maybe a water slide.  Not anything too big.  Just something so we could go swimming without going all the way into town.”

Over the next few years I think it will be fun to watch how Sterling grows, but frankly, I think it will be a lot more fun to watch how the great kids that live in Sterling grow.  They are our future, and if Megan is any indication, I’d say the future is bright indeed. 

To say that Mary Duffy is a long-time Alaskan may be an understatement.  Mary moved to Alaska from Minnesota as a small girl in 1935.  Her family was part of the first group of farmers that settled the Matanuska Valley. 

“We left the state a few times over the years and tried to live down in the lower 48, but it was always under protest that I left, and Alaska has always been home,” she said.

One of those time when Mary was living in Minnesota she met her husband-to-be, James.

“My mom was very ill, and I was down taking care of her when I met my husband.  It was kind of a whirl-wind romance.  We got married 3 months after we met,” she said with a laugh.  “Then I talked him into moving up here.  We never looked back.  This was always home.”

Although Mary has lived in Alaska for many years, she has only lived in Sterling for a few months.  After the death of her husband last year and a subsequent hip replacement, Mary moved in with her son, Jim. She has her own apartment in the home and enjoys being close to her family, but sill having her own private space.

“Jim lived in California and had a contracting business down there, but when his dad got sick, he sold it all and moved back here to be near us.”

Jim has started a new business here, a contracting business named Duffy’s Framing. 

“Jim has been really busy with his new business, but it’s been so nice to have him home,” she said.

Mary’s other son, Jack, owns Anchorage Radiator Service and lives in Anchorage. 

“It’s good to have the whole family living in Alaska now,” Mary said.

It was fun chatting with Mary because she understands the process of interviewing someone for an article.  Mary was a reporter for the Chechako News in the 1980’s and has many fond memories of her time spent working there.

“I covered a lot of high school sporting events.  My boys were both in sports, and I really enjoyed going and taking pictures of the games.  I was even in the SoHi yearbook one year taking pictures at a game,” she said with a laugh.

Both of Mary’s sons were graduates from Soldotna High School and now 2 of her 3 grandchildren are also in the Soldotna schools; one at SoHi and one at Soldotna Middle School.

Mary also worked at the now closed KKEN radio station.  She was a newscaster, but often found her self filling what ever job needed doing at the moment.

“I would fill in when the disk jockey was gone and run back and forth between songs writing my scripts.  It was hectic, but it was fun too,” she said.

Mary loves Alaska and has no plans of ever living any place else.

“at this point in my life they would have to drag me away fighting and biting, kicking and screaming to get me to leave.  I’m not going anywhere,” she said with a laugh.

I watched as third grader, Hannah Kelson, skillfully rolled out a flour tortilla shell, then placed it carefully into the hot iron skillet. Her pretty red hair was tied neatly in braids and the twinkle in her eye gave away the fact that Hannah does not consider cooking to be a chore. Mature beyond her 9 years, she told me how she likes to help her mother in the kitchen. “Sometimes I help her, and sometimes she helps me!” she exclaimed. Her favorite dish is pasta. “My mom makes the best lasagna!” she bragged. Hannah is a new member of 4-H and takes part in a cooking project club after school. So far she has learned how to properly measure ingredients, bake and decorate cookies, make soft pretzels, and at the time of the interview was learning how to make homemade flour tortillas and sopapillas.

Hannah is the daughter of Tammy Kelson who moved to Ninilchik from Bonners Ferry, Idaho with her children five years ago. Tammy said that she fell in love with this community and decided to settle here because “it felt like I found home,” she said. She also said that she thought this area was a great place to raise kids. Hannah and her siblings Lilly, 11, and Nick, 7, attend Ninilchik School. She also has a ten-month-old baby brother, Ira.

While Hannah was waiting for her sister to finish her basketball practice after school, she was more than happy to chat with me. Hannah said that she enjoys playing basketball, but her big dream is to own a horse someday. She likes to read stories about horses, she dreams about horses, and she is a member the 4-H Horseless Horse Club lead by teen leader, Sarah Cobb. When she grows up, Hannah said that she wants to have a job that has something to do with horses.

While we were chatting, Alanna Goins came bursting into the room. Alanna said that she is one of Hannah’s friends and they are neighbors in Happy Valley. She said they enjoy sleepovers and playing together. They both said that they enjoy playing their recorders in Mrs. Lisa Nissly’s music class.

After school, Hannah likes to go home and play with her ducks. She said that she loves animals and has a chocolate lab named “Winston” and a cat named “Inbisco”. Hannah’s chores include stacking wood, folding laundry, keeping her bedroom tidy and helping to clean the house.

Hannah’s mother describes Hannah as energetic and outgoing with a big heart. “There is nothing that holds her back,” Tammy said. “She is proving herself, and showing me that she is responsible enough to own a horse.”

Who does she admire most? “My mom,” Hannah said. “She takes good care of me.”

Around Town:
Happy Anniversary to Mr. & Mrs. John Fitzgerald on the 25th. Birthday greetings to John Dahman today; Brienne Leman and Jammie McKellar on the 25th; Butch Leman and Courtney Waldsmith on the 27th and Gregory Encelewski on the 28th.

            For Lisa Ping, Nikiski is worlds away from the city life of Bakersfield, California where she met her husband, Mike, at a local hangout named The Match Maker. The couple has been married for 23 years and Lisa joked that the name of the hangout was ideal.  

            “I guess it was since we have been together ever since,” she said.

            The couple moved to Alaska 16 years ago and Lisa said she likes that Nikiski residents are friendly and everyone knows everyone.

            “The air is cleaner here, the people are friendlier here, the closeness to our neighbors are great, the low crime rate, makes this place a wonderful place to raise our family,” she said.

            While her youngest daughter, Haley, will graduate high school in May, Lisa is still able to surround herself with children with her day care she has out of her home for the past seven years.

            “I love children. I love being around them and having them around me, I always have,” she said. “There is no better job in the world.”

            She recently left Alaska during the month of February to join her oldest daughter, Stefanie, in Birmingham, Alabama. She was able to spend special time with her daughter and meet her first granddaughter.

            “”I got to be there when she was born, which is a blessing for me,” she said.

            Her daughter Kelli is expecting in November and Lisa is excited about the birth of her second grandchild.

            Lisa enjoys riding on snow machining in the winter, but admits summers are wonderful in Alaska.

            “”I love our summers here so I can be outside in my yard,” she said, adding that she can also be found on area beaches looking for agates.

            Another summer tradition for the family is housing a baseball player from different colleges around the country. She and Mike have been involved with the Peninsula Oilers for 10 years.

            “For us it is great fun,” she added.

            This summer will be a bit more jam packed with family traveling up to see her youngest daughter receive her diploma.

            “We are going to go to Denali National Park and of course to Homer and Seward so that family can see our beautiful state,” she said.

            Summer plans also include watching lots of baseball in Kenai and participation in the Alaska pastime.

            “And of course to fish for those salmon and to enjoy every minute of daylight that we have,” she said.

Around town

            Happy birthday wishes go out to Jesse Lobdell and Maria Pedro on April 24 (today), Sari Anderson on April 25, Judy Stolz on April 27, Elsie Seaman on April 28 and Noelita Lopez on April 29.

            Happy anniversary to Hank and Marilyn Every on April 27.

            The Nikiski Senior Citizens, Inc. next monthly board meeting will be held on May 9 at 1 p.m. at the Nikiski Senior Center.

After finding out that Ashley Halverson was born at Palm Springs, California, I inquired as to her opinion of The Golden State?

“It’s great, it has Disneyland, it’s the place I was born. What’s not to like?” Ashley answered.

The 16-year-old girl is a sophomore at Skyview High School. Her family moved to Soldotna in 1996 and three years later settled on Pollard Loop in Kasilof.
“I like busy cities, but I like it here better because smaller communities are quiet,” she said.

Ashley enjoys reading and Mark Twain is among the authors she appreciates. She mentioned Math, Chemistry and History as classes she takes. When asked for a favorite teacher, she replied, “I like all my teachers.”

She plans to go to college and probably will start locally.

Ashley and her sister, Makinna, who is 12, volunteer at the Food Bank. They serve food and organize things. Ashley has also volunteered for a couple women’s walk/run benefits. Last summer she participated in the 19th Annual Kenai Peninsula Run For Women, which was hosted by The LeeShore Center. This summer she plans to do the Relay for Life cancer walk held June 1 at Skyview. In addition to volunteer work, Ashley does babysitting and mows lawns. Her other sibling is a two-year-old sister, named Rhiley. I asked if she liked her?

“Yes! Very much!” she replied with tremendous warmth.

Her parents are Brian and Teresa Halverson. Brian is the parts manager at Craig Taylor Equipment and Teresa runs a day care in her home. After a bout with cancer, Teresa is going through chemotherapy. Several more sessions are scheduled and then she will get radiation treatment.

Ashley took up oil painting about a year ago. A family friend, Jessica Atchison, taught her. Ashley continues to get together to paint with her every three weeks or so. She paints outdoor scenes and may enter a painting in the Ninilchik State Fair next fall. She also enjoys camping and sport fishing.

Around Town
About 30 people attended a student/parent meeting at Tustumena School April 17 to discuss fish habitat at Crooked Creek. On that subject, Johnson Lake Road washed out in 2002 and continues to erode into the creek. The meeting was called by Kenai Watershed Forum to discuss options and their director, Robert Ruffner, was on hand to facilitate conversation. The 61 mile long stream is a nursery for king and coho salmon, as well as steelhead trout. Every year the Department of Fish and Game takes eggs and milt from a few king salmon out of Crooked Creek. The eggs are transported to a hatchery in Anchorage. The following spring the emergent fry are brought back and released in Crooked Creek. These king salmon fry stay in the Creek with the creek spawners for at least one full year before migrating out to sea as smolt. Returns from this stock supports a vigorous sport fishery on the Kasilof River.

Obviously, habitat preservation on Crooked Creek is essential for maintaing healthy fish stocks. Ten years ago the Tustumena 6th grade class “adopted” the stream and, together with the Kenai Watershed Forum, they monitor its health. Dan Pascucci and Shelly Brenneman from the Forum have led monthly streamside trips for the children. Shelly and Jerry Brenneman live in Cohoe.

The Watershed Forum has been successful in obtaining funds for stabilizing the banks, placing interpretive signs, building stream-study platforms for the children, and establishing a useable parking area. Conoco Phillips, More Fish Foundation, and the National Fish and Wildlife Foundation have, together, offered about $75,000 for sponsoring the work. This project will not impede possible later construction of a bridge, nor will it use state funds.

            Donna Rooper, a Washington native, came to Nikiski in 1982 to visit friends she had worked with in Oregon. While at a turn-around party at Bill and Helen Chenault’s home, she met her future husband, Malcolm, and she never left.

            “I love everything about living in Nikiski,” she said, admitting that she had never heard of our small town before and couldn’t find it at first.

            In the years since she moved to Nikiski, she has raised two children; John, 22 and Laura, 19, and has found her niche as a substitute teacher for the past 11 years.

            “Those high school kids keep me real and my feet on the ground. If I’m feeling a little arrogant and too sure of myself, all I have to do is sub at the high school and I become human again and myself,” she said.

            She said her goals for this year is to tie up loose ends, such as cleaning out closets and downsize, in preparation for the couple’s move to Europe in the next three months.

            “It is hard to leave Nikiski even for a little while,” she said. She has been involved in high school sports, PTA, school events, community picnics and her church. She said she enjoys knowing those who work at the post office, grocery store and area restaurants.

            The couple will relocate to Dortmund in West Germany.

            “It will be an adventure, for sure,” she said.

            The move is possible since her husband is an engineer and urea specialist for Agrium. He is a jet setter who is currently in London finalizing contracts for project in Egypt.

            “They have a bountiful supply of natural gas and at good prices,” she added.

            In her free time, Donna enjoys bicycling, cross stitch, reading and writing. Also, while her family is made up of avid runners, Donna enjoys a slower the pace of walking or trotting along the trails in her backyard. 

            She also heads a Taking Pounds Off Sensible (TOPS) group that meets in the Nikiski Pool classroom once a week. The group not only keeps track of their own progress, but applauds others on their successes and to help encourage others who have set backs. She said the group has helped her shed pounds and bond closer with other Nikiski residents. .

            “We are a small group but always welcome new members as we genuinely want to aid others in the constant battle to retake our bodies. I’ve made lifelong friends with in the group I would have never otherwise met anywhere else in this community,” she said.

Around town

            Don’t forget to check out the various activities held daily at the Nikiski Senior Center.

            Happy birthday wishes this week go to Ken Baker and Robert Fulton on April 18, William Bullington on April 19, Ham Wilson on April 20, Casey McClure on April 22 and Delma Moore on April 23.

            Happy Anniversary to Terry and Carolyn Morse on April 21.

            Let me know about birthdays, anniversaries or other special days. 

From: “Joan Hansen” hansjoan@alaska.net>
To: news@peninsulaclarion.com>
Subject: Kenai Neighbors Column for April 17, 2007
Date: Friday, April 13, 2007 12:01 AM
Breakup is finally here. The clues are unmistakable: wonderful puddles of water in all the dips, kids sweeping the parking lot at the high school, full view of leftover weeds in my flower garden, the sound of silence from the snow machines in the neighborhood, the smell of watered down dog poop from my neighbor’s puppy, and a whole mudroom full of mud-caked shoes at my son, Dan’s, house. The most fun thing of all- the tiniest pair of pink break-up boots imaginable on my little year-old granddaughter, Selah. It’s truly springtime in Alaska, with or without the traditional Easter blizzard.

Like hibernating bears, spring brings a lot of us out of our lairs, and it’s a great time to figure out who your neighbors are. I met a friend’s great neighbor last week, and her name is Susan Richardson.

Susan is a newcomer to Kenai, having moved here last November from Lloydmister, Saskatchewan. She and her family relocated here because of her husband’s job transfer. He had been commuting from Canada to the Middle East for ten years, and when there was an opportunity to relocate to Alaska with B.J. Coiltech, he took it. “It was time to live life as a normal family.”

The couple has a son, Brock, age 14, who attends Kenai Central High School. He is looking foreword to getting involved with dirt bike racing and has plans to fish in the Inlet.

Susan, born in Ontario, moved to Alberta, and attended business college in Saskatchewan. Half the town of Lloydmster was in Alberta, half was in Saskatchewan.

Susan considers herself a decorative artist. “In the art industry, the only difference between decorative art and fine art is that fine art is painted on canvas, framed and hung on a wall. Decorative art is painted on functional items.” Susan does tole painting on everything from walls to chests to lawn chairs to dishware. Her most ambitious project, she said, was painting a 12 x 14-foot wall for a friend. “We even painted the family’s cat into the picture.”

Susan says that she chooses projects that are challenging. “It’s like a journey. Everytime you paint something, you learn something new and reinforce what you already know.” She will teach a class in the community schools next fall in “Introduction to Decorative Art”. “Painting,” she says” is not something you are born with. It’s a skill you learn. Only three things are required for you to learn to paint: Patience, Persistence, and Perseverance.”

Mrs. Richardson would like to form a group of painters/students with whom she could share her skills and knowledge. Call her at 335-1545 if you are interested in this medium.

Meanwhile, Susan is enjoying spring, and says, “Kenai is a beautiful place where the people are friendly. I never get tired of the scenery.”

Around Town: Happy birthday on the 18th to Bud Loftstedt, Bob Fulton, and Patricia Reilly, and to Mae Stanley and John Kjeldson on the 22nd.

Kevin Zimmerman, son of Leroy and Mary Lou Zimmerman was born and raised in Issaquah, Washington and graduated from Liberty High School in 1983. Soon after graduation he headed up to Alaska where some mutual friends who were in the guiding business lined up some work for him. He guided for big game hunters on the Alaska Peninsula and in Kotzebue. Since he had his coast guard license at age 18, he was also a fishing guide. He lived in Soldotna for a few years before moving to Ninilchik in 1990.

Husband of the late Diana Zimmerman, and father of three, Kevin has been highly involved with his family and community. His oldest son, Steven, is 2003 Ninilchik School grad and now lives in Camano Island, Washington. Sarah, who is in second grade, and Kyle, who is in 6th grade, attend Ninilchik School where Kevin works as night custodian. This is his 10th year volunteering his time to run the Wolfpack Club, a wrestling club open to the kids in the community. He is also the head wrestling coach for all levels at Ninilchik School.

Being involved with the kids in the community has caused Kevin to think that it would be nice to have some kind of community recreational center available for the kids who have nothing to do after school. “A recreational center would take pressure off the school to provide activities to keep children from being idle,” he said. “I’ve been in small communities where they have made something like this the highest priority. I think it would be good for our community as well,” he said.

Kevin has been a volunteer firefighter for six years and has been trained as an emergency medical technician for Ninilchik Emergency Services. Kevin said that his family has been friends with Ninilchik’s EMS Chief, Sue Simonds, from back when they lived in Washington.

This is the 23rd year that Kevin and his family have owned and operated “Butt Chaser” fishing charter service. An outstanding memory Kevin told me about was when he took his 92-year-old great Aunt Gertie Zimmerman fishing and she caught a 182-pound halibut. “Aunt Gertie out fished all the guys on the boat that day!” He exclaimed.

“I like living here, especially with the closeness of this community,” Kevin said.

After he told me about his father’s passing away in 1995, and his wife’s untimely death in 2005, he appreciates the support from friends and family.

“The tough times make you a better person,” he said.

Kevin’s mother continues to come up each summer from Washington to help run the charter business. Kevin is now engaged to Terry Obrien, a friend from Washington who he and Diana grew up with.

Around Town:
Happy Anniversary to Kathy Bundy and Terry Hepner on April 18. Happy birthday to Adrian Johnson today (April 17); Dale Mattingley and Kathryn Knuth on Wednesday, April 18; Ed Harper on Thursday, April 19; and Elliot Evans and Rohit Butail on Friday, April 20.